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Uncreative Writing: Bart's Note

"Uncreative Writing" by Kenneth Goldsmith

Date: 17/09/2025

Reading group: Bart - Ema - Robin - Tommi - Youjung

Protocol: We took turns reading pieces of the physical book out loud. While one person is reading, the others will take notes in a digital copy of the text.

Pad: https://pad.xpub.nl/p/UncreativeWriting_Notes

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Reading Notes from Sibyl

Date:2025/10/01                                                                Group Members:Barbara & Sibyl 

All notes are based on the Etherpad.

The Art of Asking your Boss for a Raise - Georges Perec

~ Summary

You want to ask your boss for a raise, but every time you try, it gets ruined.

For instance:

·He doesn't look up when you knock

·None of his daughters have measles, but the fourth one is not OK > Wait 40 days.

·He swallowed a bone from the cafeteria lunch fish

“Narrative in the form of a flowchart, but there is only an input but no output. Stuck in a loop!”

~ Evaluation
  • The design of the flowchart seems intentional but it’s a good hint for readers : the first 'playthrough' presents a more normal situation, which becomes increasingly absurd the deeper you delve.
  • A lot of repeating sentences, if-statements, loops, like a code!
PROTOCOL

No punctuations !

A loop within the story with no exit !

~ Interpretation
  • Connection to coding languages is very interesting
  • You never actually ask for a raise. Only shows the process but you get stuck in a forever loop.
  • Critique on company hierarchies: If your boss doesn't open te conversation to a possible raise then it will never happen even if you keep trying.

Rule and Constraint - Marcel Bénabou

~ Summary
  • Hypocrisy of critics that laws of poetry/prose are seen as good but more unconventional constraints are "limiting the artist" including Anagrams, palindromes, lipograms, poetry (sonnet, anagrams) and so on.
  • Language is a material object and a complex system of elements that form words/sentences/etc.
  • Constraints go beyond assumed rules and reveal those two aspects.
  • Some rules will not be a constraint , it will be a tool for someone to innovate something. Constraint is a tool to help explore new possibilities virtualities.
~ Evaluation
  • Quite hard to understand.
  • Tried to separate paragraphs and filter them to try to understand.
  • Examples are hard to follow, we don't have the context.
~ Interpretation
  • Oulipo pushes literary constraints to their other possibilities.
  • Use tools to constitute process of deconstruction and restructuring.
  • Interesting way of reframing materiality of language. Usually we think of the notebook as the object, not the written word itself.
  • Tools in our brain help us combine words into sentences.

Methods 2025-10-01: Group Discussions Of Texts That Had Been Read

Etherpad for Group Discussion

Georges Perec: The Art of Asking your Boss for a Raise (1968)

  • There are different versions of this work: a diagram, a text, a radio broadcast > we mostly engaged with the text and/or the diagram.
  • The experiences of “reading” the flow chart and the text are very different:
    • The concept of the diagram is a loop; a text is always linear.
    • The diagram is the script of a computer program, the text is the entire iteration.
  • The written text is prefaced with an intro by the translator, which gives helpful context.
  • The text is not punctuated and only in lower case. This is probably meant to simulate a computer algorithm and mechanical processes, but it also resembles the stream of consciousness of a human. The lack of punctuation makes the text uncomfortable to read, it is easy to get lost in in it—but also entertaining.
  • The subject (“you”) never actually asks for a raise. A possible interpretation: Perec is trying to critique hierarchy of companies.
  • from the intro: there’s an “exhilarating potential of repetitiveness and recursion”
  • “decide to try your luck afresh tomorrow”
  • “circumperambulate”: to walk/wander without a destiny in circles (webster: to circle on foot especially ritualistically); in portuguese perambular means to wander

Marcel Bénabou: Rule and Constraint (1984)

  • Rule is a metric or a form while a constraint is a generative result.
  • Bénabou argues in favour of constraint and points to strict as well as freedom-based literary schools of thought. He argues that both are missing the whole point of language, which is to be treated as an object in itself, not a mere conveyor of information.
  • Some forms of constraint are accepted/desired: poetic forms like an alexandrine or a sonnet (also, haiku or limerick) have specific rhyme schemes, or a set number of syllables or lines.
  • Constraints does not confine the authors but liberates them, you escape from your own censorship.
  • Constraints can enhance your creativity by limiting your toolset. Rules are for comprehension, constraints are for cerativity.
  • Language is something material. Language and rules itself have a material.
  • "Each page is a bed where letters lie"
  • "Constraint forces the system out of its routine functioning, thereby compelling it to reveal its hidden resources"
  • "Constraint goes beyond rules, people who have questioned language can escape the system and reveal hidden resources" – maybe a reason why someone starts to learn coding to understand the constraints

Raymond Queneau: A Story as You Like It (1967)

  • Interesting to put this into the context of the time when it was created, modern day the stories are very complex but might have been interesting back in the days.
  • All of the choices that you get at the end is very opinionated, everything is a opinion which is quite different from asking your boss for a raise. In this, reader casts a judgement to the choice and story.

Paul Fournel: The Theater Tree — A Combinatory Play

  • Example for different ways of writing scripts/texts (like a "choose your own adventure games")
  • Black mirror: pretended that the way the story was made is revolutionary, but actually it was not! Fournels ideas at the time also not revolutionary
  • Similar structure to Italo Calvino's books

Michael Winkler: Where Signs Resemble Thoughts (1960s)

  • Michael Winkler: both an author and an artist
  • Language is a code that we all came up with it and agreed on.
  • The point of a code: someone else has to be able to understand
  • Winkler made symbols out of words by connecting the letters within a circle (there are other possible codes!)
  • Connecting the words with the symbols, it's possible to reflect on the word itself > serendipity
  • It is an interesting exercise to take language apart to look at the single components
  • Ideographic from Greek: ideo = that is seen; gramma: letter / written sign
  • Other writing systems are (more) symbolic in themselves (with e.g. Chinese a system like winkler's would be way more complicated)
  • Winklers symbols on the circle visually resemble the connection between stars (as in astrology)
  • Language as a code is underlying computing, but the codes in computing are very inaccessible to people using other writing systems

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