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Revision as of 10:43, 13 April 2026
Interpretive Licensing Workshop
I am interested in poetry as a means
of enacting through new shared language
a community that had not previously existed.
I am interested in a you in me
that corresponds to a you in you
or rather I should say I am interested in
we, our, with, correspondence, plurality, betweenness,
I mean between
you and me I am interested in the territories of truth
a poem makes through language, through
listening—[1]
Short History of Copy -> Right?
https://github.com/ErikMcClure/bad-licenses/
"the rule of exclusion has become the default rule in copyright. "[2]
Comparison Table[3]
| Public domain & equivalents | Template:YesPermissive license | Copyleft (protective license) | Noncommercial license | Proprietary license | Trade secret | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Description | Grants all rights | Grants use rights, forbids almost nothing (allows proprietization, license compatibility) | Grants use rights, forbids proprietization | Grants rights for noncommercial use only. May or may not be combined with copyleft. | Traditional use of copyright; no rights need be granted | No information made public |
| Software | PD, CC0 | BSD, MIT, Apache | GPL, AGPL | JRL, AFPL | proprietary software, no public license | private, internal software |
| Other creative works | PD, CC0 | CC BY | CC BY-SA, Free Art License | CC BY-NC, CC BY-NC-SA | Copyright, no public license | unpublished |
Open Licenses from Manetta
Aymeric's speech Free Only If
Thesis Guidelines#From Thesis to Publication
Download link to map of creative commons licenses by Clara Bougon
Enforceability / Interfacing the Law
The principle of freedom of contract is a fundamental principle of Dutch contract law. It implies that, in principle, parties are only bound by the rules they have mutually agreed upon.[4]
Can I just make up my own license?
Severine Dussolier:
"The question of enforceability was asked early on of Creative Commons licences. For many years, a lot of people said, it will not be enforceable. And then here and there were decisions that said, yes, it’s enforceable. But this was not even the question. It’s enforceable if it is recognised. If it is a legal document that people agree on, it will be enforceable. But again, copyright sometimes is not enforceable. Yes, it is a property right, it is enforceable, but in practice, and particularly in small cases with not a lot of money, they will have a lot of difficulty in finding the pirates, finding the person who has made the copy and who has disappeared or has done it anonymously. It’s not only about the type of rights that you put in the licence or whether you just apply the exclusive copyright. If you don’t give any licence, of course, any copy without an authorisation is a pirate copy. But at the same time, it doesn’t allow for more enforcement because the enforcement is also something of practical reality; you’ll have to find the pirate. Saying that this document will be less enforceable than others, I don’t think is the point. But what I found completely fascinating with CC4r, and I think that was genius, is that the Creative Commons is only applied once the “product” is done—and the use of the term “product” is not innocent here. Once the work is done, only then does the licence determine what you can do with it. CC4r also takes into account a step before, as it first talks about how we do this work together, and then we’ll decide what can be done. It’s more inclusive in the sense that it will consider the collaborative conditions, the collaboration between people. So, maybe yes, if you are a publisher, you are more interested in what I should do with your product, the book. The publisher is probably not as involved in the process of producing that book. Maybe the interest is more in the outcome, for which the Creative Commons seems a most obvious choice.
But I think that, again, those are legal experiments that are interesting, and they will not solve all the issues. A contract has never solved all the issues. For instance, the music industry has fought for years against pirates and peer-to-peer sharing of music, and they weren’t always successful. They have all the money in the world, and they have the exclusive copyright, and they couldn’t really wipe out all the pirates’ websites. There has been a constant fight between the copyright holders and the pirates. Of course, you will never catch all the pirates in the world. So this is a risk. The law is not something that happens automatically and will self-enforce. Enforcement is a process that costs money, that needs courts, that needs defendants who are identifiable, who are reasonable defendants.
I can see why people are less convinced by Creative Commons licences because they have not been experimented with enough. But they will have a life of their own, and then at some point, people will agree to them. It’s a completely new form of licence, it’s not a traditional, typical licence. But I think what is important is that at least it binds people who agree to it, and so it gives some frame to a community of people. And of course, it’s left open to possible pirates, but those will always be outside of the legal force of the law, of the legal force of Creative Commons.
This is the ultimate frontier that you will never reach. We’ve seen this with Eva’s workshop on the Piracy Project at LaCambre in Brussels, the case of a publisher who made a business out of printing Wikipedia articles and made them look like scientific books, selling them for a lot of money. Legally speaking, those people even comply with the Creative Commons licence that governs Wikipedia pages, but it is a completely unethical thing. And yes, those people will never be reachable or will never be accountable before courts. Maybe I’m defeatist here, but I say, what’s the point? Is it not better to just try to reinvent the practice by saying these are the rules that will govern a practice rather than just constantly think of the risk of someone stealing your work?"
"The law is composed of different things: you have rules that are not immutable. They are, at some point, decided on, and then you can change them by way of a new legislative act. For instance, being able to vote at the age of 18 is a rule. So, it is 18, not 19, not 16. So you’d have to change that if you wanted that. But most of the law is not constituted by rules like that. It’s constituted by processes of deciding cases. For instance, the norm of liability says that anyone who causes damage to someone is responsible and has to compensate for the damage. This rule seems very straightforward, but it is just a standard statement. You have a lot of different ways to interpret it: what does it mean to cause damage? You have all these elements that are part of the legal process, where the courts do that work of interpreting. This case law, as it’s called, can change and it does change all the time. This is also a process of changing the law. And then you have all the elements that are not determined, you have new issues popping up. For example, can a work that is created by artificial intelligence be protected by copyright? That is not accounted for in law anywhere in the world, it’s a new question.
With a few norms and a few rules and standards and principles of copyright, we can deal with that question, but we can have different opinions, and then we can say, oh, maybe at the moment it will not be protected by copyright, and maybe we need to have new legislation to decide about that case. The law is in constant change. How do we change copyright? Then we have a lot of things that we had earlier, that the law does not decide on but leaves for the parties or the persons to decide for themselves. A contract just states what the rules are that have to be followed, but the law doesn’t say that, OK, if you write a book and you publish it, the publisher will have to pay you that amount of money. In some countries, it says the authors will transfer the copyright to the publisher and need to be paid to receive a proportionate and fair remuneration. That’s just a standard, but it doesn’t say it has to be 25% or 5%. You have the standard and then the parties decide. How do we change copyright law? First, we experiment with it. And this is what has been done with Open Access and copyleft licences for the last 20 years. I think it’s interesting to recognise that Open Access licences have just been experimenting with the law that recognises that authors enjoy copyright and the power to prohibit or authorise the use of their works.
Copyleft movements have experimented with the authorisation part of copyright in a new way; they have created a new norm, and a new law. This is the first way to change the law. The second is to plead for a legislative change. And then the other is to develop new legal arguments that can be welcomed by the courts, because there is still some uncertainty as to how to interpret the legal standard, or there is a new question for which there is no legal answer. This is what the courts and what we as copyright lawyers are doing all the time. We argue when to use the theories of copyrights or what copyright should be or is about and play with the rules and with what the rules are not ruling. What are the holes in copyright that have to be filled, or sometimes not, but have to maybe be left unexplored to allow for experimentation? There are a lot of ways in which to change copyright law. It is not immutable, and it isn’t complete. Not everything a creator does is regulated by law. A lot of things are still in the shadow of the law in a way."[5]
Poetic Licenses and Interpretation in Law
Ownership and the financial ties that a creation generate are very interesting to me. I think we create and without intention this creation takes on a (financial and other modes of) sovereignty. If the ownership of the creation changes then it is a very interesting situation because owning art on its own is a complicated thing. The art piece becomes an asset, which then can be sold. It has its own rights, its own life.
This year we all became authors. Authorship evokes really interesting feelings; pride, disappointment, anxiety, doubt, self-doubt. As we come towards the end of it we can start looking at what comes next; JUDGEMENT. heheh no :) I mean the public. Whether we publish our thesis or not, we are entitled to control its interaction and interfacing side with the world. The license is an agreement we make with the public to decide on how the world deals with the creation.
Poetic Examples of Sharing it with Others
Others: https://www.are.na/virtual-care-lab/terms-that-serve-us-tzki_vscpds
https://reuse.constantvzw.org/index.php?title=Reuse_Case:_Conceptual_Poetry
- BUT A DEDICATION IS ONLY FELICITOUS IF PERFORMED BEFORE WITNESSES – IT IS AN ESSENTIALLY PUBLIC SURRENDER LIKE THAT OF STANDARDS OF BATTLE). (Anne Carson)[6]
- BUT A DEDICATION IS ONLY FELICITOUS IF PERFORMED BEFORE WITNESSES – IT IS AN ESSENTIALLY PUBLIC SURRENDER LIKE THAT OF STANDARDS OF BATTLE). (Anne Carson)[6]
- My voice formed from my life belongs to no one else. What I put into words is no longer my possession. Possibility has opened. The future will forget, erase, or recollect and deconstruct every poem[7]
- “Plagiarism is necessary, progress implies it. It closely grasps an author’s sentence, uses his expressions, deletes a false idea, replaces it with a right one”. Lautréamont[8]
- i wish earth was more like a library. ppl speaking in soft voices on the streets everything shared and borrowed.[9]
- Just remember,
quote
is caring We don’t mind the what or why or when or who Up to you what you do.[10]
- Just remember,
- I am no bird; and no net ensnares me [11]
losing its name
a river
enters the sea[12]
- How are we perceived, if we are to be perceived at all? For the most part we are invisible.[13]
We require each other in unexpected collaborations and combinations, in hot compost piles. We become-with each other or not at all.[14]
We shape our self
to fit this world
and by the world
are shaped again.
The visible
and the invisible
working together
in common cause,
to produce
the miraculous.
I am thinking of the way
the intangible air
traveled at speed
round a shaped wing
easily
holds our weight.[15]
Write your own :)[16]
Draw your audience
- Your biggest fan
- Not an enthusiast
Write a draft
- Haiku (5,7,5)
- Short paragraph
- Draft an actual license(definitions, terms, declaration of time and date)
- Title
- Definitions
- Reproduction rights: the right to reproduce copies of the work (for example making copies of a book from a manuscript)
- Adaptation rights: the right to produce derivative works based on the copyrighted work (for example creating a film based on a book)
- Distribution rights: the right to distribute copies of the work (for example circulating the book in bookshops)
- Performance rights: the right to perform the copyrighted work publicly, (for example having a reading of the book or a dramatic performance of a play)
- Display rights: the right to display the copyrighted work publicly (for example showing a film or work of art)
Open Mic
Monday Poetry Slam
my humble example
Once it was born, I decided to record every word that comes out of its mouth. Every single sound. I wanted these sounds to travel the world. I wanted them to lay on paper and in minds of other people. I wanted to show the world; my body has made sound and sense through another life. Shout along what has been written so far; AA EE OO.[17]
Other Guides
https://git.pixie.town/thufie/npl-builder
https://reuse.constantvzw.org/images/7/7c/Rewrite_of_Self-Review_of_Citational_practice.txt
https://reuse.constantvzw.org/index.php?title=Questions_(no_answers)
Index[18]
Liability (legally responsible for something)
Guaranty (undertaking from a guarantor to a guarantee.)
Warranty (promise made by the warrantor regarding the existence of specific facts or quality, quantity, or nature of a good or property.)
code (systematic collection of existing laws.)
conditions (a situation that must exist before something else is possible or permitted that can change the rights and duties of those involved.)
permissions (officially allowing, consent or authorization)
responsibility (moral legal or mental accountability)
obligation (something that obligates to a course of action)
consideration (mutual exchange of promises or obligations between parties to a contract.)
contract (agreement between parties creating multiple obligations)
commitment (an agreement or pledge to do something)
promise (assurance of intent to complete an action or refrain from doing the action.)
Compromise (agreement between opposing parties to settle a dispute or reach a settlement.)
Collaboration
Share and share alike (used to encourage everyone to have an equal amount of something [19])
Communion
citing
remix
reuse
Consent
Refusal
Renewal
propagate
dissemination
continuation
References
- ↑ Legal Tender by Kyle Dacuyan https://theoffingmag.com/poetry/legal-tender/
- ↑ https://monoskop.org/images/1/1e/Liang_Lawrence_Guide_to_Open_Content_Licenses_v1_2_2015.pdf
- ↑ Comparison Table copy pasted from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Permissive_software_license
- ↑ https://www.gmw.nl/en/expertises/art-law/purchase-agreements/
- ↑ Parse Journal issue 21 Ecologies of Dissemination: Conversation Transcripts.
- ↑ Chapter title from Beauty of the Husband by Anne Carson
- ↑ from My Emily Dickinson by Susan Howe. "My voice formed from my life belongs to no one else. What I put into words is no longer my possession. Possibility has opened. The future will forget, erase, or recollect and deconstruct every poem. There is a mystic separation between poetic vision and ordinary living. The conditions for poetry rest outside each life at a miraculous reach indifferent to world chronology."
- ↑ https://monoskop.org/images/1/1e/Liang_Lawrence_Guide_to_Open_Content_Licenses_v1_2_2015.pdf
- ↑ https://x.com/bbbeeccaa/status/914918156061339650
- ↑ From Habitat's 2024 license
- ↑ Charlotte Bronte, Jane Eyre
- ↑ John Sandbach
- ↑ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_(1993_film)
- ↑ Donna Haraway, Staying with Trouble
- ↑ https://onbeing.org/poetry/working-together/
- ↑ https://reuse.constantvzw.org/index.php?title=Practice_Documents
- ↑ sevgis entry
- ↑ All definitions from: https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex
- ↑ https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/share-and-share-alike
Further Reading
Keenan, S. (2015). Subversive Property.
https://europa.eu/youreurope/business/running-business/intellectual-property/copyright/index_en.htm
https://business.gov.nl/products-services-and-innovation/protecting-your-product-or-idea/ip-rights/
https://copim.pubpub.org/pub/combinatorial-books-documentation-copyright-licences-post6/release/1'
https://media.xpub.nl/2023/2023-04-18-aymeric-wait-what-is-publishing.html