Tunnel Reading - Revision history

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2018-05-24T10:23:15Z

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	'''When:''' 22/5/2018<br />		'''When:''' 22/5/2018<br />

	'''What text:''' https://monoskop.org/images/1/1f/Dispossession_The_Performative_in_the_Political.pdf/<br /> (ascending/descending, uploading/downloading, south/north, 'tunnel')		'''What text:''' https://monoskop.org/images/1/1f/Dispossession_The_Performative_in_the_Political.pdf/ + http://www.minorcompositions.info/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/undercommons-web.pdf<br /> (ascending/descending, uploading/downloading, south/north, 'tunnel')

	'''How:''' Separated in two groups we are going to read out loud the same text while walking, having started from the two opposite entrances of the tunnel. The one group will head to the South and the other to the North. Every time the reader changes we are going to write on the wall the # link to the wikipage of that exact point in the text, and the time. When we meet at the centre we will pass by each other. At the same time each group will record the readings and track the route with an app.		'''How:''' Separated in two groups we are going to read out loud the same text while walking, having started from the two opposite entrances of the tunnel. The one group will head to the South and the other to the North. Every time the reader changes we are going to write on the wall the # link to the wikipage of that exact point in the text, and the time. When we meet at the centre we will pass by each other. At the same time each group will record the readings and track the route with an app.
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	'''Inspiration''': [https://github.com/marcellmars/logan_and_jessica Marcell Mars' project "Logan and Jessica"]		'''Inspiration''': [https://github.com/marcellmars/logan_and_jessica Marcell Mars' project "Logan and Jessica"]
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Tash at 09:38, 23 May 2018

2018-05-23T09:38:22Z

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	'''How:''' Separated in two groups we are going to read out loud the same text while walking, having started from the two opposite entrances of the tunnel. The one group will head to the South and the other to the North. Every time the reader changes we are going to write on the wall the # link to the wikipage of that exact point in the text, and the time. When we meet at the centre we will pass by each other. At the same time each group will record the readings and track the route with an app.		'''How:''' Separated in two groups we are going to read out loud the same text while walking, having started from the two opposite entrances of the tunnel. The one group will head to the South and the other to the North. Every time the reader changes we are going to write on the wall the # link to the wikipage of that exact point in the text, and the time. When we meet at the centre we will pass by each other. At the same time each group will record the readings and track the route with an app.
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	'''Inspiration''': [https://github.com/marcellmars/logan_and_jessica Marcell Mars' project "Logan and Jessica"]		'''Inspiration''': [https://github.com/marcellmars/logan_and_jessica Marcell Mars' project "Logan and Jessica"]
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	that I’d be running away from it, but I sort of felt we needed to do		that I’d be running away from it, but I sort of felt we needed to do
	it so that we didn’t feel like we needed to keep doing it. Instead of		it so that we didn’t feel like we needed to keep doing it. Instead of
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Angeliki at 19:49, 22 May 2018

2018-05-22T19:49:10Z

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	'''Where:''' Maastunnel, Rotterdam<br />		'''Where:''' Maastunnel, Rotterdam<br />

Angeliki at 19:48, 22 May 2018

2018-05-22T19:48:11Z

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	'''Where:''' Maastunnel, Rotterdam<br />		'''Where:''' Maastunnel, Rotterdam<br />

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	that I’d be running away from it, but I sort of felt we needed to do		that I’d be running away from it, but I sort of felt we needed to do
	it so that we didn’t feel like we needed to keep doing it. Instead of		it so that we didn’t feel like we needed to keep doing it. Instead of
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Angeliki at 19:46, 22 May 2018

2018-05-22T19:46:35Z

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	that I’d be running away from it, but I sort of felt we needed to do		that I’d be running away from it, but I sort of felt we needed to do
	it so that we didn’t feel like we needed to keep doing it. Instead of		it so that we didn’t feel like we needed to keep doing it. Instead of
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Angeliki at 19:45, 22 May 2018

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	'''Where:''' Maastunnel, Rotterdam<br />		'''Where:''' Maastunnel, Rotterdam<br />

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	that I’d be running away from it, but I sort of felt we needed to do		that I’d be running away from it, but I sort of felt we needed to do
	it so that we didn’t feel like we needed to keep doing it. Instead of		it so that we didn’t feel like we needed to keep doing it. Instead of
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Angeliki at 19:43, 22 May 2018

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Angeliki at 19:41, 22 May 2018

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	=== <span style="color: pink">Angeliki 1 </span> ===		=== <span style="color: pink">Angeliki 1 </span> ===
	=== Alice 2 ===		=== <span style="color: lightblue">Alice 2</span> ===
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	politics?		politics?

	===Elisa 2===		===<span style="color: lightblue">Elisa 2</span>===
	But if there can be no realm of appearance possible		But if there can be no realm of appearance possible
	apart from social normativity and thus from imposed		apart from social normativity and thus from imposed
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	=== <span style="color: pink">Zalan 2 </span>===		=== <span style="color: pink">Zalan 2 </span>===
	===Alice 3===		===<span style="color: lightblue">Alice 3</span>===
	STEFANO: I could list for you some of our concepts such as ‘under- commons’ or ‘planning’ or the ones we’ve been working with lately, around unsettling and the shipped. But, in a way, I feel like what I’m exploring with Fred, and what I would explore in other situations which aren’t as developed but have been tried, for instance, with the collective at Queen Mary, University of London, is this: the concepts are ways to develop a mode of living together, a mode of being to- gether that cannot be shared as a model but as an instance. So, I feel more like an ‘idea thief ’ around this, as Guattari would say – I am hacking concepts and squatting terms as a way to help us do some- thing. Which is not to say that we don’t spend a lot of time develop- ing and trying to make sense of these concepts or trying to figure out how new situations or circumstances might lead us to want to con- tinue the concept, or on the other hand to say the term is no long- er sufficient for what we’re trying to say here. I’m thinking recently about some stuff that Fred wrote in response to a question of whether the occupations of the Occupy Movement could be understood to be doing something that we were calling ‘planning.’ And Fred said, “yeah, not just planning but also study and also what you may even call ‘black study.’” So that for me was an example of where the con- cepts were letting us continue to move through different situations. In that sense I suppose they are there for us in some ways, even if I don’t think of them as conceptual in the same way that maybe you would think of concepts more traditionally in philosophy where you have to make a system of them.		STEFANO: I could list for you some of our concepts such as ‘under- commons’ or ‘planning’ or the ones we’ve been working with lately, around unsettling and the shipped. But, in a way, I feel like what I’m exploring with Fred, and what I would explore in other situations which aren’t as developed but have been tried, for instance, with the collective at Queen Mary, University of London, is this: the concepts are ways to develop a mode of living together, a mode of being to- gether that cannot be shared as a model but as an instance. So, I feel more like an ‘idea thief ’ around this, as Guattari would say – I am hacking concepts and squatting terms as a way to help us do some- thing. Which is not to say that we don’t spend a lot of time develop- ing and trying to make sense of these concepts or trying to figure out how new situations or circumstances might lead us to want to con- tinue the concept, or on the other hand to say the term is no long- er sufficient for what we’re trying to say here. I’m thinking recently about some stuff that Fred wrote in response to a question of whether the occupations of the Occupy Movement could be understood to be doing something that we were calling ‘planning.’ And Fred said, “yeah, not just planning but also study and also what you may even call ‘black study.’” So that for me was an example of where the con- cepts were letting us continue to move through different situations. In that sense I suppose they are there for us in some ways, even if I don’t think of them as conceptual in the same way that maybe you would think of concepts more traditionally in philosophy where you have to make a system of them.
	FRED: I think that’s right. I feel, in a lot of ways, the fun thing about working collaboratively with someone is that you literally come to terms together. Stefano will point to different things he’s read that I haven’t read, different kinds of experiences that he’s gone through. He’ll take a term that I would never have thought of myself and I’ll find myself totally drawn to the term and want to work with it. There will be other times when I’ll want to do something to the term.		FRED: I think that’s right. I feel, in a lot of ways, the fun thing about working collaboratively with someone is that you literally come to terms together. Stefano will point to different things he’s read that I haven’t read, different kinds of experiences that he’s gone through. He’ll take a term that I would never have thought of myself and I’ll find myself totally drawn to the term and want to work with it. There will be other times when I’ll want to do something to the term.
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	props. They are constantly involved in this massive project of pretend- ing. And the toys that they have are props for their pretending. They don’t play with them the right way – a sword is what you hit a ball with and a bat is what you make music with. I feel that way about these terms. In the end what’s most important is that the thing is put in play. What’s most important about play is the interaction. One time we were driving in the car and my kids were playing this game called ‘family,’ and it’s basically that they’ve created an alternative family and they just talk about what the alternative family is doing. This time, when they had really started enjoying the game, my eldest son looked at me, I could see him through the rearview mirror, and he said, “dad, we have a box, and we’re going to let you open this box, and if you open the box, you can enter into our world.”That’s kind of what it feels like: there are these props, these toys, and if you pick them up you can move into some new thinking and into a new set of relations, a new way of being together, thinking together. In the end, it’s the new way of being together and thinking together that’s important, and not the tool, not the prop. Or, the prop is important only insofar as it allows you to enter; but once you’re there, it’s the relation and the activity that’s really what you want to emphasize. So, with that said, if somebody’s reading our stuff, and they think they can get something out of the term ‘planning’ or ‘undercommons’ or ‘logisticality,’ that’s great, but what matters is what they do with it; it’s where they take it in their own relations. When people read their stuff it leads people to look up and read ours. That also creates a different kind of relation between us, even if we’re not necessarily cognizant of it.		props. They are constantly involved in this massive project of pretend- ing. And the toys that they have are props for their pretending. They don’t play with them the right way – a sword is what you hit a ball with and a bat is what you make music with. I feel that way about these terms. In the end what’s most important is that the thing is put in play. What’s most important about play is the interaction. One time we were driving in the car and my kids were playing this game called ‘family,’ and it’s basically that they’ve created an alternative family and they just talk about what the alternative family is doing. This time, when they had really started enjoying the game, my eldest son looked at me, I could see him through the rearview mirror, and he said, “dad, we have a box, and we’re going to let you open this box, and if you open the box, you can enter into our world.”That’s kind of what it feels like: there are these props, these toys, and if you pick them up you can move into some new thinking and into a new set of relations, a new way of being together, thinking together. In the end, it’s the new way of being together and thinking together that’s important, and not the tool, not the prop. Or, the prop is important only insofar as it allows you to enter; but once you’re there, it’s the relation and the activity that’s really what you want to emphasize. So, with that said, if somebody’s reading our stuff, and they think they can get something out of the term ‘planning’ or ‘undercommons’ or ‘logisticality,’ that’s great, but what matters is what they do with it; it’s where they take it in their own relations. When people read their stuff it leads people to look up and read ours. That also creates a different kind of relation between us, even if we’re not necessarily cognizant of it.

	=== Elisa 3 ===		=== <span style="color: lightblue">Elisa 3</span> ===
	STEFANO: Just pick up a toy...		STEFANO: Just pick up a toy...
	STEVPHEN: Following on from that I’d like to ask something about how you approach writing together. If concepts are tools for living or toyboxes for playing, when you pick up a text that’s finished, unless you’ve got some special texts that I don’t know of, you don’t get a sense of the playing or the living usually. What you get a sense of is some finished product where the collectivity animating the work that pre- ceded it – which I would agree with you is the most important thing – somehow gets lost along the way. How do you negotiate that? Or is		STEVPHEN: Following on from that I’d like to ask something about how you approach writing together. If concepts are tools for living or toyboxes for playing, when you pick up a text that’s finished, unless you’ve got some special texts that I don’t know of, you don’t get a sense of the playing or the living usually. What you get a sense of is some finished product where the collectivity animating the work that pre- ceded it – which I would agree with you is the most important thing – somehow gets lost along the way. How do you negotiate that? Or is
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	===Femke 2===		===<span style="color: lightblue">Femke 2</span>===
	Our		Our
	fi		fi
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	up.		up.

	===Alice 4===		===<span style="color: lightblue">Alice 4</span>===
	I’ve been thinking more and more of study as		I’ve been thinking more and more of study as
	something not where everybody dissolves into the student, but where		something not where everybody dissolves into the student, but where
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	===Elisa 4===		===<span style="color: lightblue">Elisa 4</span>===
	ST		ST
	EFAN		EFAN
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	===Femke 3===		===<span style="color: lightblue">Femke 3</span>===
	ST		ST
	EV		EV

Angeliki at 19:39, 22 May 2018

2018-05-22T19:39:04Z

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Angeliki at 19:31, 22 May 2018

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