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Kim: /* What's next */

2025-07-16T12:30:55Z

What's next

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	== What's next ==		== What's next ==
	We are interested in finding out how we could distribute this publication inside of the terminal, but independently from when we first made it public at the Telecom Museum Rotterdam, the following is a list of open possibilities:		We are interested in finding out how we could distribute this publication inside of the terminal, but independently from when we first made it public at the Telecom Museum Rotterdam, the following is a list of open possibilities:
	* uv, pip (make a python project and then have people install it via pip install)		* [https://docs.astral.sh/uv/ uv], pip (make a python project and then have people install it via pip install)
	* telnet (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telnet , https://www.404media.co/queer-online-zine-new-session-telnet/)		* telnet (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telnet , https://www.404media.co/queer-online-zine-new-session-telnet/)
	* ssh guest user		* ssh guest user
	the last option would require us to host a server of our own and set up a guest user with no sudo rights. (we can not do this on our current server since ssh keys are mandatory for security). On connecting to the server, a process would open that displays the publication. <br>		the last option would require us to host a server of our own and set up a guest user with no sudo rights. (we can not do this on our current server since ssh keys are mandatory for security). On connecting to the server, a process would open that displays the publication. <br>
	Arthur whom we met at [[User:Kim/Stations, Skills, Resources/Pre Post Print\|Pre Post Print]] showed a similar approach with a server their community set up: https://arthur.bebou.netlib.re/crisco-des (this seems to be offline rn, but will come back on eventually so I put it here anyway)		Arthur whom we met at [[User:Kim/Stations, Skills, Resources/Pre Post Print\|Pre Post Print]] showed a similar approach with a server their community set up: https://arthur.bebou.netlib.re/crisco-des (this seems to be offline rn, but will come back on eventually so I put it here anyway)

Kim: /* What's next */

2025-07-16T12:30:17Z

What's next

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	We are interested in finding out how we could distribute this publication inside of the terminal, but independently from when we first made it public at the Telecom Museum Rotterdam, the following is a list of open possibilities:		We are interested in finding out how we could distribute this publication inside of the terminal, but independently from when we first made it public at the Telecom Museum Rotterdam, the following is a list of open possibilities:
	* uv, pip (make a python project and then have people install it via pip install)		* uv, pip (make a python project and then have people install it via pip install)
	* telnet		* telnet (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telnet , https://www.404media.co/queer-online-zine-new-session-telnet/)
	* ssh guest user		* ssh guest user
	the last option would require us to host a server of our own and set up a guest user with no sudo rights. (we can not do this on our current server since ssh keys are mandatory for security). On connecting to the server, a process would open that displays the publication. <br>		the last option would require us to host a server of our own and set up a guest user with no sudo rights. (we can not do this on our current server since ssh keys are mandatory for security). On connecting to the server, a process would open that displays the publication. <br>
	Arthur whom we met at [[User:Kim/Stations, Skills, Resources/Pre Post Print\|Pre Post Print]] showed a similar approach with a server their community set up: https://arthur.bebou.netlib.re/crisco-des (this seems to be offline rn, but will come back on eventually so I put it here anyway)		Arthur whom we met at [[User:Kim/Stations, Skills, Resources/Pre Post Print\|Pre Post Print]] showed a similar approach with a server their community set up: https://arthur.bebou.netlib.re/crisco-des (this seems to be offline rn, but will come back on eventually so I put it here anyway)

Kim: /* What's next */

2025-07-16T12:29:02Z

What's next

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	* telnet		* telnet
	* ssh guest user		* ssh guest user
	the last option would require us to host a server of our own and set up a guest user with no sudo rights. (we can not do this on our current server since ssh keys are mandatory for security). On connecting to the server, a process would open that displays the publication. (~~eg. arthur @ beubeu~~)		the last option would require us to host a server of our own and set up a guest user with no sudo rights. (we can not do this on our current server since ssh keys are mandatory for security). On connecting to the server, a process would open that displays the publication. <br>
			Arthur whom we met at [[User:Kim/Stations, Skills, Resources/Pre Post Print\|Pre Post Print]] showed a similar approach with a server their community set up: https://arthur.bebou.netlib.re/crisco-des (this seems to be offline rn, but will come back on eventually so I put it here anyway)

Kim: /* What's next */

2025-07-16T12:24:22Z

What's next

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	== What's next ==		== What's next ==
	We are interested in ~~understanding~~ how ~~can~~ we distribute this publication inside of the terminal, independently from when we first made it public at the Telecom Museum Rotterdam, the following is a list of open possibilities:		We are interested in finding out how we could distribute this publication inside of the terminal, but independently from when we first made it public at the Telecom Museum Rotterdam, the following is a list of open possibilities:
	* uv, pip		* uv, pip (make a python project and then have people install it via pip install)
	~~we could package the~~ project and then have people install it via pip install
	* telnet		* telnet

	* ssh guest user		* ssh guest user
	~~we could~~ host a server on our own and set a guest user with no sudo rights ~~open~~ a process ~~on connection~~ that ~~would read~~ the publication. (eg. arthur @ beubeu)		the last option would require us to host a server of our own and set up a guest user with no sudo rights. (we can not do this on our current server since ssh keys are mandatory for security). On connecting to the server, a process would open that displays the publication. (eg. arthur @ beubeu)

Kim: /* Textualize */

2025-07-16T12:20:21Z

Textualize

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	At some point it really helped us to sit down and list our essentials for this project, we needed a way to format text, but to also run both linux commands and custom bash scripts. We then decided to settle for python and both the rich and os library.		At some point it really helped us to sit down and list our essentials for this project, we needed a way to format text, but to also run both linux commands and custom bash scripts. We then decided to settle for python and both the rich and os library.


	~~ncurses, tpp, urwid, pyboxen, xdotool, textualize~~

	== Print ==		== Print ==

Kim: /* Things we didn't end up using */

2025-07-16T12:20:05Z

Things we didn't end up using

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	== Things we didn't end up using ==		== Things we didn't end up using ==
	On our way towards the practical realization of the project we ran into multiple possible ways we could achieve presenting formatted text.		On our way towards the practical realization of the project we ran into multiple possible ways we could achieve presenting formatted text in the terminal.

	Initially we had though of using various text manipulating tools from the linux core tools:		Initially we had though of using various text manipulating tools from the linux core tools:

Kim: /* Things we didn't end up using */

2025-07-16T12:19:35Z

Things we didn't end up using

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	*printf		*printf
	*ANSI escape codes (which make the file unreadable)		*ANSI escape codes (which make the file unreadable)
			these are documented here: https://www.baeldung.com/linux/formatting-text-in-terminals, https://coding-bootcamps.com/paginate-texts-in-linux/, https://www.spsanderson.com/steveondata/posts/2025-01-24/

	=== tpp ===		=== tpp ===

Kim: /* Pypoxen */

2025-07-16T12:17:27Z

Pypoxen

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	It allows to make boxes, titles, and controlled formatting. We found out we did not need that much and so we started to look into rich (that also allows for less costumizable boxed frames btw).		It allows to make boxes, titles, and controlled formatting. We found out we did not need that much and so we started to look into rich (that also allows for less costumizable boxed frames btw).

	Michael helped us writing what is now the final code, he was suggesting to look into '''textualize''', another library from the same creator of rich, but in the end we had what we need and textualize was adding another (interesting) layer of abstraction we needed to wrap our head around in a very limited amount of time.		=== Textualize ===
			Michael helped us writing what is now the final code, he was suggesting to look into '''[https://www.textualize.io/ textualize]''', another library from the same creator of rich, but in the end we had what we need and textualize was adding another (interesting) layer of abstraction we needed to wrap our head around in a very limited amount of time.

	At some point it really helped ~~sitting~~ down and ~~listing~~ our essentials for this project, we needed a way to format text, but to also run both linux commands and custom bash scripts. We then decided to settle for python and both the rich and os library.		At some point it really helped us to sit down and list our essentials for this project, we needed a way to format text, but to also run both linux commands and custom bash scripts. We then decided to settle for python and both the rich and os library.

Kim: /* tpp */

2025-07-16T12:15:41Z

tpp

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	Working with tpp looks fun but it also does not seem to be the best for large quantities of text.(as presentation files become unreadable)		Working with tpp looks fun but it also does not seem to be the best for large quantities of text.(as presentation files become unreadable)

	At the same time of this discovery, Joseph mentioned '''urwid''', a python console user interface library for unix-like OSses.		=== urwid ===
			At the same time of this discovery, Joseph mentioned '''[https://urwid.org/ urwid]''', a python console user interface library for unix-like OSses.
	It allows for many possiblities like widgets for building custom TUI, animations, style support, but we also were struggling with making sense of the documentation.		It allows for many possiblities like widgets for building custom TUI, animations, style support, but we also were struggling with making sense of the documentation.

	'''Xdotool''' is an automation tool that allows for keyboard automation and more, at some point we were thinking of making a script that would open tpp presentations and send keyboard input every x seconds to cycle through them, the files would then be intermitted by linux commands. We did not settle for something too far from this in terms of logic, but we dropped this idea since xdotool works only with a desktop environment.		=== Xdotool ===
			'''[https://github.com/jordansissel/xdotool Xdotool]''' is an automation tool that allows for keyboard automation and more, at some point we were thinking of making a script that would open tpp presentations and send keyboard input every x seconds to cycle through them, the files would then be intermitted by linux commands. We did not settle for something too far from this in terms of logic, but we dropped this idea since xdotool works only with a desktop environment.

	After some time thinking of how we might solve this, Joseph came up with another recommendation: a python library called '''pyboxen'''.		=== Pypoxen ===
			After some time thinking of how we might solve this, Joseph came up with another recommendation: a python library called '''[https://github.com/savioxavier/pyboxen pyboxen]'''.
	Pyboxen is built on top of another library called '''rich''' (the one that we ended up using) and it is a python port of another popular npm library called boxen.		Pyboxen is built on top of another library called '''rich''' (the one that we ended up using) and it is a python port of another popular npm library called boxen.
	It allows to make boxes, titles, and controlled formatting. We found out we did not need that much and so we started to look into rich (that also allows for less costumizable boxed frames btw).		It allows to make boxes, titles, and controlled formatting. We found out we did not need that much and so we started to look into rich (that also allows for less costumizable boxed frames btw).

Kim: /* tpp */

2025-07-16T11:14:14Z

tpp

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	=== tpp ===		=== tpp ===
	Afterwards, we ran into '''[https://github.com/cbbrowne/tpp tpp ~~- text presentation program~~]''' (text presentation program), a ruby-ncurses presentation tool that works with files written with some special description synthax (ex. -title, -newpage).		Afterwards, we ran into '''[https://github.com/cbbrowne/tpp tpp]''' (text presentation program), a ruby-ncurses presentation tool that works with files written with some special description synthax (ex. -title, -newpage).
	Tpp looked like a solution for a while, it even has the possibility to run commands! But we were having issues to make it work on Kim's computer and when you actually ran commands inside of it the output was displayed at the bottom of the file.		Tpp looked like a solution for a while, it even has the possibility to run commands! But we were having issues to make it work on Kim's computer and when you actually ran commands inside of it the output was displayed at the bottom of the file.
	Working with tpp looks fun but it also does not seem to be the best for large quantities of text.(as presentation files become unreadable)		Working with tpp looks fun but it also does not seem to be the best for large quantities of text.(as presentation files become unreadable)