Hosting and serving - Revision history

Manetta: /* Renting web space */

2025-09-17T08:45:31Z

Renting web space

← Older revision		Revision as of 10:45, 17 September 2025
Line 50:		Line 50:
	* [https://www.ovhcloud.com/nl/ OVH]: just a simple company in France/Luxembourgh		* [https://www.ovhcloud.com/nl/ OVH]: just a simple company in France/Luxembourgh
	* [https://www.chatons.org/en/search/by-service?service_type_target_id=154&field_alternatives_aux_services_target_id=All&field_software_target_id=All&field_is_shared_value=All&title= Chatons.org]: an index of many more web hosting initiatives in the EU (mostly in France, as this is a French initiative)		* [https://www.chatons.org/en/search/by-service?service_type_target_id=154&field_alternatives_aux_services_target_id=All&field_software_target_id=All&field_is_shared_value=All&title= Chatons.org]: an index of many more web hosting initiatives in the EU (mostly in France, as this is a French initiative)
			* [https://www.infomaniak.com/en/hosting/our-web-offers Infomaniak]
			* [https://greenhost.net/products/hosting/ Greenhost] (NL based)

	===Convivial web space===		===Convivial web space===

Manetta: /* Different server practices */

2025-05-15T13:50:26Z

Different server practices

← Older revision		Revision as of 15:50, 15 May 2025
Line 7:		Line 7:
	federated networks of servers, Fediverse, Activity Pub Protocol		federated networks of servers, Fediverse, Activity Pub Protocol

	~~“autonomous”~~/~~“radical”~~/~~“community”~~/~~“feminist”~~/~~“art“~~ servers		[[Community servers\|autonomous/radical/community/feminist/art servers]]

	* https://riseup.net/en/security/resources/radical-servers		* https://riseup.net/en/security/resources/radical-servers

Manetta at 14:54, 8 April 2025

2025-04-08T14:54:15Z

← Older revision		Revision as of 16:54, 8 April 2025
Line 41:		Line 41:
	===Use the sandbox===		===Use the sandbox===

	You can of course always use the sandbox of your group, but remember the [[Sandbox protocol]], it will be archived after your 2 years at XPUB.		You can of course always use the sandbox of your group, but remember the [[Sandbox#Sandbox protocol]], it will be archived after your 2 years at XPUB.

	=== Renting web space ===		=== Renting web space ===
Line 65:		Line 65:
	===Use the sandbox===		===Use the sandbox===

	You can of course always use the sandbox of your group, but remember the [[Sandbox protocol]], it will be archived after your 2 years at XPUB.		You can of course always use the sandbox of your group, but remember the [[Sandbox#Sandbox protocol]], it will be archived after your 2 years at XPUB.

	=== Renting a physical "dedicated" server ===		=== Renting a physical "dedicated" server ===

Manetta: /* My web hosting space */

2025-04-07T19:06:17Z

My web hosting space

← Older revision		Revision as of 21:06, 7 April 2025
Line 47:		Line 47:
	There are a lot of options here!		There are a lot of options here!

	~~A few options~~:		* [https://servus.at servus.at] is an organisation in Linz Austria that provides hosting for artists/designers/cultural organisations, they also organise the bi-yearly AMRO (Art Meets Radical Opennes) festival
			* [https://www.ovhcloud.com/nl/ OVH]: just a simple company in France/Luxembourgh
			* [https://www.chatons.org/en/search/by-service?service_type_target_id=154&field_alternatives_aux_services_target_id=All&field_software_target_id=All&field_is_shared_value=All&title= Chatons.org]: an index of many more web hosting initiatives in the EU (mostly in France, as this is a French initiative)

	* [https://~~servus~~.~~at servus~~.~~at] is an organisation in Linz Austria that provides hosting for artists~~/~~designers~~/~~cultural organisations~~, ~~they also organise the bi-yearly AMRO (Art Meets Radical Opennes) festival~~		===Convivial web space===

			* run a VPS with friends!
			* Tilde servers, such as https://tilde.town, https://tilde.club, https://club1.fr, ...
	* [https://neocities.org/ neocities]: inspired by the history of geocities.com, a place for hand made web pages		* [https://neocities.org/ neocities]: inspired by the history of geocities.com, a place for hand made web pages

			=== Website making tools plus hosting ===

	* [https://hotglue.me/ hotglue]: a tool and hosting service in one, made by people at Networked Media back in the days		* [https://hotglue.me/ hotglue]: a tool and hosting service in one, made by people at Networked Media back in the days
	* [https://www.ovhcloud.com/nl/ OVH]: just a simple company in France/Luxembourgh
	* [https://www.chatons.org/en/search/by-service?service_type_target_id=154&field_alternatives_aux_services_target_id=All&field_software_target_id=All&field_is_shared_value=All&title= Chatons.org]: an index of many more web hosting initiatives in the EU (mostly in France, as this is a French initiative)

	==My server==		==My server==

Manetta: /* Renting a VPS (virtual private server) */

2025-04-07T19:03:59Z

Renting a VPS (virtual private server)

← Older revision		Revision as of 21:03, 7 April 2025
Line 67:		Line 67:
	=== Renting a VPS (virtual private server) ===		=== Renting a VPS (virtual private server) ===

	~~Organisations and companies~~ that ~~offer VPS services:~~		A VPS is basically one of many virtual servers that run on a larger dedicated server.

	* https://servus.at		When you rent a VPS, you basically have access to a full operating system, which is something you would need to run your own Wiki, Flask application, Django application, Node application, an Etherpad, ... basically anything that involved a bit more complicated/custom server side stuff. When you just want to run something like a Wordpress, you can often find web hosting services that offer this for you.

			Pro's to use a VPS (compared to self-hosting):
			* lots of options, you can really make your own space online
			* saving computing resources
			* reliability

			To take in consideration:
			* you need to maintain and update this server yourself
			* you need to take care of backups yourself

			Organisations/community initiatives that offer VPS services:

			* [https://servus.at servus.at] is an organisation in Linz Austria that provides hosting for artists/designers/cultural organisations, they also organise the bi-yearly AMRO (Art Meets Radical Opennes) festival
	* [https://www.chatons.org/en/search/by-service?service_type_target_id=154&field_alternatives_aux_services_target_id=All&field_software_target_id=All&field_is_shared_value=All&title= Chatons.org]: an index of many more VPS options at hosting initiatives in the EU (mostly in France, as this is a French initiative)		* [https://www.chatons.org/en/search/by-service?service_type_target_id=154&field_alternatives_aux_services_target_id=All&field_software_target_id=All&field_is_shared_value=All&title= Chatons.org]: an index of many more VPS options at hosting initiatives in the EU (mostly in France, as this is a French initiative)
	* https://www.ovhcloud.com/
			Some companies that offer VPS services:

			* [https://www.ovhcloud.com/nl/ OVH]: just a simple company in France/Luxembourgh
	* https://gandi.net/		* https://gandi.net/
	* https://greenhost.net/		* https://greenhost.net/
	* https://uberspace.de/en/		* https://uberspace.de/en/

	Each of them probably offers something slightly different, so check their offers closely.		Each of them probably offers something slightly different, so check their offers closely.

	~~Pro's to use a VPS (compared to self-hosting):~~
	* saving computing resources
	* reliability

	=== Homebrewing ===		=== Homebrewing ===

Manetta: /* Homebrewing */

2025-04-07T18:59:48Z

Homebrewing

← Older revision		Revision as of 20:59, 7 April 2025
Line 84:		Line 84:
	=== Homebrewing ===		=== Homebrewing ===

	Self hosting at home or somewhere physically (needs hardware, electricty, internet connection, …)		Self hosting at home or somewhere physically (needs hardware, electricty, internet connection, and admin access to the router).

	~~Maybe not~~ the ~~most environmental friendly server~~, ~~as running it in a data center costs less energy~~.		It creates the possibility to learn A LOT. You will encounter lots of things about servers, routers, how the internet is working, etc.

	~~port forwarding~~		Maybe not the most environmental friendly way to run a server, as running it in a data center costs less energy. This point can be discussed.

	it ~~is good but not so~~ reliable		Also, it can be less reliable, as daily life can interfere.

	~~is it environmental friendly or not . it is something we can discuss on~~		Some links to help you to get started:

	~~it can create the possibility to learn by doing, to take it slow~~		* https://homebrewserver.club/
			* https://self-hosting.guide/
			* https://things.bleu255.com/runyourown/Main_Page
			* https://slrpnk.net/c/selfhosting
			* https://varia.zone/ATNOFS/

	=== Use the XPUB hub (VPN) ===		=== Use the XPUB hub (VPN) ===

Manetta: /* Running a server */

2025-04-07T18:55:49Z

Running a server

@@ Line 37: / Line 37: @@
 See: inspector &gt; Network &gt; Request + inspector &gt; Network &gt; Response
-==Running a server==
+==My web hosting space==
 === Renting a physical "dedicated" server ===
@@ Line 59: / Line 81: @@
 * saving computing resources
 * reliability
 === Homebrewing ===
@@ Line 90: / Line 98: @@
 === Use the XPUB hub (VPN) ===
-soupboat uses this to connect
+You can set up a server and connect it to the internet through the XPUB vpn.
-https://hub.xpub.nl/
+All the servers that are using the HUB are listed here: https://hub.xpub.nl/.
-https://pzwiki.wdka.nl/mediadesign/HUB
+More information can be found at the [[HUB]] page.
-soupboat connects through the xpub.hub to the public internet
+Each of the sandboxes connect through the HUB to the public internet.
 == HOW DO WE RUN A SERVER? ==

Manetta: /* What is a server? */

2025-04-07T18:52:06Z

What is a server?

← Older revision		Revision as of 20:52, 7 April 2025
Line 37:		Line 37:
	See: inspector > Network > Request + inspector > Network > Response		See: inspector > Network > Request + inspector > Network > Response

			==Running a server==

	=== Renting a physical "dedicated" server ===		=== Renting a physical "dedicated" server ===

Manetta: /* Renting web space */

2025-04-07T18:50:41Z

Renting web space

← Older revision		Revision as of 20:50, 7 April 2025
Line 62:		Line 62:

	There are a lot of options here!		There are a lot of options here!

	~~And there are different ways to approach this way of hosting:~~

	* is it important for you that the server is hosted by an organisation that you align with in terms of values or practice? (artist hoster)
	* do you want to host your website in a convivial setting? (tilde clubs, neocities)

	A few options:		A few options:

Manetta: /* Renting a VPS (virtual private server) */

2025-04-07T18:50:21Z

Renting a VPS (virtual private server)

← Older revision		Revision as of 20:50, 7 April 2025
Line 44:		Line 44:
	=== Renting a VPS (virtual private server) ===		=== Renting a VPS (virtual private server) ===

	~~Virtual Private Server~~		Organisations and companies that offer VPS services:

	~~HTTP(port80)/HTTPS(port 443)~~

	~~Protocol you need to surf the web~~

	~~Companies~~ that offer VPS services:

	* https://servus.at		* https://servus.at
Line 58:		Line 52:
	* https://greenhost.net/		* https://greenhost.net/
	* https://uberspace.de/en/		* https://uberspace.de/en/

			Each of them probably offers something slightly different, so check their offers closely.

	Pro's to use a VPS (compared to self-hosting):		Pro's to use a VPS (compared to self-hosting):