1or2images - Revision history

123cld at 11:48, 1 February 2023

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	at the test screening at EYE film museum the DCP of my piece was corrupt and could not be played fully. Having to send in a new DCP, I had the chance to ~~...~~ my obsessive-perfectionist-everchanging mind and make a new, fifth (?) version of the piece		at the test screening at EYE film museum the DCP of my piece was corrupt and could not be played fully. Having to send in a new DCP, I had the chance to comply my obsessive-perfectionist-everchanging mind and make a new, fifth (?) version of the piece

	https://youtu.be/ERnV6DgVFes		https://youtu.be/ERnV6DgVFes

	brought back in the blue boxes - but kept the fragmented/~~note~~-like version of the text - made the blue flicker/intercut full screen and not 4:3 - did some extra fine tuning on the timing between text and images		brought back in the blue boxes and their switching placement on the two sides of the screen, on the edge of the 4:3 aspect ratio - but kept the fragmented/notes-like version of the text - made the blue flicker/intercut full screen and not 4:3 - did some extra fine tuning on the timing between text and images

123cld at 11:45, 1 February 2023

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	text in form of more personal fragmented notes, less of a voiceover transcipt - more fragmented, more open - still conceptual description vibe but not in a truth-imposing way - no more split screen middle part - more space/time to images on single screen, to watch at them more intuitively, in a less directed way - names of the images are revealed only at the end of the piece - blue flickering/background as inter-element between the two images - different aspect ratios (4:3 to give the sense of a closer, in-depth reading of the images)		text in form of more personal fragmented notes, less of a voiceover transcipt - more fragmented, more open - still conceptual description vibe but not in a truth-imposing way - no more split screen middle part - more space/time to images on single screen, to watch at them more intuitively, in a less directed way - names of the images are revealed only at the end of the piece - blue flickering/background as inter-element between the two images - different aspect ratios (4:3 to give the sense of a closer, in-depth reading of the images)



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			at the test screening at EYE film museum the DCP of my piece was corrupt and could not be played fully. Having to send in a new DCP, I had the chance to ... my obsessive-perfectionist-everchanging mind and make a new, fifth (?) version of the piece

			https://youtu.be/ERnV6DgVFes

			brought back in the blue boxes - but kept the fragmented/note-like version of the text - made the blue flicker/intercut full screen and not 4:3 - did some extra fine tuning on the timing between text and images

123cld at 11:36, 26 January 2023

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	==== Afterthoughts (what I've learnt, what I want to do with it, what directions to follow) ~~or the really important part of this text~~ ====		==== Afterthoughts (what I've learnt from making this piece, what I want to do with it, what directions to follow next) ====
	- my work, my way of making, of thinking, of writing, has a strong conceptual approach. both steve and laura noticed it and told me i should make good use of it. observe, study, read about conceptual art and conceptual/structural filmmaking. understand their tools, weapons, ways of making and make them part of my practice too. tautology - objective description is one of them		- my work, my way of making, of thinking, of writing, has a strong conceptual approach. both steve and laura noticed it and told me i should make good use of it. observe, study, read about conceptual art and conceptual/structural filmmaking. understand their tools, weapons, ways of making and make them part of my practice too. tautology - objective description is one of them

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	-think myself as a videoartist rather than a filmmaker - maybe it's just a matter of words and labels, but it makes me feel as if more freedom is allowed		-think myself as a videoartist rather than a filmmaker - maybe it's just a matter of words and labels, but it makes me feel as if more freedom is allowed

	- i am very interested in this whole research direction on image-making / media theory / self-reflection on the status/meaning/structure of (moving) images - I should work more on these lines in the future (24x1 project?)		- i am very interested in this whole research direction on image-making / media theory / self-reflection on the status/meaning/structure of (moving) images - I should work more on these lines in the future (24x1 project maybe?)

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			i intend to keep working on this piece

	~~I want to keep working on this piece.~~ try to re-edit it, use it as a playground (a serious one though) to experiment with the language that I want to develop as a videoartist - get more into the media specificity of these two images - really get at the core of their being images - through text but also through ~~their visual comparison~~ - reflect on the ~~kind~~ of materials/elements/gestures I am using and the ways that i am using them - everything has to be meaningful		try to re-edit it, use it as a playground (a serious one though) to experiment with the language that I want to develop as a videoartist

			get more into the media specificity of these two images - really get at the core of their being images

			through text - keep using the fragmented/unedited notes format - i think it works well - but push my descriptions forward - use the weapon of tautology more - play with the friction between (seemingly) objective descriptions and the two images - with tautology - with the ambiguity of the different mediums

			- reintroduce the blue descriptive boxes - do not make them overpower the images, find a balance

			but also through the way the two images are edited together - movements/animations

			reflect on the types of materials/elements/gestures I am using and the ways that i am using them - everything has to be meaningful

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123cld at 11:18, 26 January 2023

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	- try to convey my thoughts and ideas in a more visual way, through the tools that i have as an image-maker. every gesture that i make in editing has to be meaningful and intentional. being visual does not mean to remove text-words from my work, but rather use those also in a visual way - experiment with fonts, effects, ways of incorporating a text in moving images so that they can make sense together - work on the relationship between images and texts, not just subtitles		- try to convey my thoughts and ideas in a more visual way, through the tools that i have as an image-maker. every gesture that i make in editing has to be meaningful and intentional. being visual does not mean to remove text-words from my work, but rather use those also in a visual way - experiment with fonts, effects, ways of incorporating a text in moving images so that they can make sense together - work on the relationship between images and texts, not just subtitles

	- be specific, rigorous, precise - every gesture, every choice has to be meaningful, even the slightest (how long is my film? how many frames? why is every element there in that way? ask myself these ~~sort of~~ questions while editing - be formally intentional		- be specific, rigorous, precise - every gesture, every choice has to be meaningful, even the slightest (how long is my film? how many frames? why is every element there in that way?) - ask myself these questions while editing - be formally intentional - it makes huge difference

	- but also try to be less elegant, cold, dry, work in a more instictual-associative-freeform way - be less self disciplined with my images (i guess thjs may sound contradictory with the previous point - but i feel i should and can find a good balance between the two		- but also try to be less elegant, cold, dry, work in a more instictual-associative-freeform way - be less self disciplined with my images (i guess thjs may sound contradictory with the previous point - but i feel i should and can find a good balance between the two
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	-think myself as a videoartist rather than a filmmaker - maybe it's just a matter of words and labels, but it makes me feel as if more freedom is allowed		-think myself as a videoartist rather than a filmmaker - maybe it's just a matter of words and labels, but it makes me feel as if more freedom is allowed

	- i am very interested in this whole research direction on image-making / media theory / self-reflection on the status/structure of (moving) images - should work more on ~~this~~ in the future (24x1 project?)		- i am very interested in this whole research direction on image-making / media theory / self-reflection on the status/meaning/structure of (moving) images - I should work more on these lines in the future (24x1 project?)

	- keep working on this piece. try to re-edit it, use it as a playground (a serious one though) to experiment with the language that I want to develop as a videoartist - get more into the media specificity of these two images - really get at the core of their being images - through text but also through their visual comparison - reflect on the kind of materials/elements I am using and the ways that i am using them - ~~the two should be coherent, every gesture should~~ be meaningful ~~- give enough space/time to every element - dont be afraid of showing something - even a still frame - for too long -~~		----


			I want to keep working on this piece. try to re-edit it, use it as a playground (a serious one though) to experiment with the language that I want to develop as a videoartist - get more into the media specificity of these two images - really get at the core of their being images - through text but also through their visual comparison - reflect on the kind of materials/elements/gestures I am using and the ways that i am using them - everything has to be meaningful

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123cld at 11:15, 26 January 2023

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	a visual comparison between two seemingly completely different images		a visual comparison between two seemingly completely different images - a painting by mark rothko and google earth's imagery around north sentinel island

	~~a painting by mark rothko and google earth's imagery around north sentinel~~ island		first outcome of my NS island research project

	==== process/progress ====		==== process/progress ====
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	==== Afterthoughts (what I've learnt, what I want to do with it, what directions to follow) or the really important part of this text ====		==== Afterthoughts (what I've learnt, what I want to do with it, what directions to follow) or the really important part of this text ====
	- my work, my way of making, ~~o fthinking~~, of writing, has a strong conceptual approach. both steve and laura noticed it and told me i should make good use of it. observe, study, read about conceptual art and conceptual filmmaking. understand their tools, weapons, ways of ~~working~~ and make them ~~mine~~. tautology - objective description is one of them~~. research into structural filmmaking~~		- my work, my way of making, of thinking, of writing, has a strong conceptual approach. both steve and laura noticed it and told me i should make good use of it. observe, study, read about conceptual art and conceptual/structural filmmaking. understand their tools, weapons, ways of making and make them part of my practice too. tautology - objective description is one of them

	- try to convey my thoughts and ideas in a more visual way, through the tools that i have as an image-maker. every gesture that i make in editing has to be meaningful and intentional. being visual does not mean to remove text-words from my work, but rather use those also in a visual way - experiment with fonts, effects, ways of incorporating a text in moving images so that they can make sense together - work on the relationship between images and texts, not just subtitles		- try to convey my thoughts and ideas in a more visual way, through the tools that i have as an image-maker. every gesture that i make in editing has to be meaningful and intentional. being visual does not mean to remove text-words from my work, but rather use those also in a visual way - experiment with fonts, effects, ways of incorporating a text in moving images so that they can make sense together - work on the relationship between images and texts, not just subtitles
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	- experiment more with the flickering effect - understand why it is used by other filmmakers (structural films, but also more contemporary - ex rachel rose) and understand how to achieve it		- experiment more with the flickering effect - understand why it is used by other filmmakers (structural films, but also more contemporary - ex rachel rose) and understand how to achieve it

			-think myself as a videoartist rather than a filmmaker - maybe it's just a matter of words and labels, but it makes me feel as if more freedom is allowed

			- i am very interested in this whole research direction on image-making / media theory / self-reflection on the status/structure of (moving) images - should work more on this in the future (24x1 project?)

			- keep working on this piece. try to re-edit it, use it as a playground (a serious one though) to experiment with the language that I want to develop as a videoartist - get more into the media specificity of these two images - really get at the core of their being images - through text but also through their visual comparison - reflect on the kind of materials/elements I am using and the ways that i am using them - the two should be coherent, every gesture should be meaningful - give enough space/time to every element - dont be afraid of showing something - even a still frame - for too long -
	~~-think myself as a videoartist rather than a filmmaker - feels like more freedom is allowed~~

	- try to re-edit ~~this piece.~~ use it as a playground (a serious one though) to experiment with the language that I want to develop as a videoartist. get more into the media specificity of these two images. really get at the core of their being images - through text but also through their visual comparison - reflect on the kind of materials/elements I am using - ~~what kind~~

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123cld at 10:58, 26 January 2023

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	==== Afterthoughts (what I've learnt, what I want to do with it, what directions to follow) or the really important part of this text ====		==== Afterthoughts (what I've learnt, what I want to do with it, what directions to follow) or the really important part of this text ====
	- my work, my way of making, o fthinking, of writing, has a strong conceptual approach. both steve and laura noticed it and told me i should make good use of it. observe, study, read about conceptual art and conceptual filmmaking. understand their tools, weapons, ways of working and make them mine. tautology - description is one of them. research into structural filmmaking		- my work, my way of making, o fthinking, of writing, has a strong conceptual approach. both steve and laura noticed it and told me i should make good use of it. observe, study, read about conceptual art and conceptual filmmaking. understand their tools, weapons, ways of working and make them mine. tautology - objective description is one of them. research into structural filmmaking

	- try to convey my thoughts and ideas in a more visual way, through the tools that i have as an image-maker. every gesture that i make in editing has to be meaningful and intentional. being visual does not mean to remove text-words from my work, but rather use those also in a visual way - experiment with fonts, effects, ways of incorporating a text in moving images so that they can make sense together - work on the relationship between images and texts, not just subtitles		- try to convey my thoughts and ideas in a more visual way, through the tools that i have as an image-maker. every gesture that i make in editing has to be meaningful and intentional. being visual does not mean to remove text-words from my work, but rather use those also in a visual way - experiment with fonts, effects, ways of incorporating a text in moving images so that they can make sense together - work on the relationship between images and texts, not just subtitles

	- be specific, rigorous, precise - every gesture, every choice has to be meaningful, even the slightest (how long is my film? how many frames? why is every element there in that way? ask myself these sort of questions while ~~editing0~~		- be specific, rigorous, precise - every gesture, every choice has to be meaningful, even the slightest (how long is my film? how many frames? why is every element there in that way? ask myself these sort of questions while editing - be formally intentional

	- but also try to be less elegant, cold, dry, work in a more instictual-associative-~~free form~~ way		- but also try to be less elegant, cold, dry, work in a more instictual-associative-freeform way - be less self disciplined with my images (i guess thjs may sound contradictory with the previous point - but i feel i should and can find a good balance between the two

	- random editing doesnt work at all, it just looks ugly and messy. if I want some		- random editing doesnt work at all, it just looks ugly and messy. if I want some
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	-think myself as a videoartist rather than a filmmaker - feels like more freedom is allowed		-think myself as a videoartist rather than a filmmaker - feels like more freedom is allowed

	- try to re-edit this piece. use it as a playground (a serious one though) to experiment with the language that I want to develop as a videoartist		- try to re-edit this piece. use it as a playground (a serious one though) to experiment with the language that I want to develop as a videoartist. get more into the media specificity of these two images. really get at the core of their being images - through text but also through their visual comparison - reflect on the kind of materials/elements I am using - what kind



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123cld at 10:51, 26 January 2023

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	==== Afterthoughts ====		==== Afterthoughts (what I've learnt, what I want to do with it, what directions to follow) or the really important part of this text ====
			- my work, my way of making, o fthinking, of writing, has a strong conceptual approach. both steve and laura noticed it and told me i should make good use of it. observe, study, read about conceptual art and conceptual filmmaking. understand their tools, weapons, ways of working and make them mine. tautology - description is one of them. research into structural filmmaking

	~~====== (what I've learnt~~, ~~what I want~~ to do with it, ~~what directions to follow) ======~~		- try to convey my thoughts and ideas in a more visual way, through the tools that i have as an image-maker. every gesture that i make in editing has to be meaningful and intentional. being visual does not mean to remove text-words from my work, but rather use those also in a visual way - experiment with fonts, effects, ways of incorporating a text in moving images so that they can make sense together - work on the relationship between images and texts, not just subtitles
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	-		- be specific, rigorous, precise - every gesture, every choice has to be meaningful, even the slightest (how long is my film? how many frames? why is every element there in that way? ask myself these sort of questions while editing0

	-		- but also try to be less elegant, cold, dry, work in a more instictual-associative-free form way

	-		- random editing doesnt work at all, it just looks ugly and messy. if I want some

	-		- give enough space/time to every element of the piece - dont be afraid of leaving something on screen for too long - sometimes it is needed

	-		- experiment more with the flickering effect - understand why it is used by other filmmakers (structural films, but also more contemporary - ex rachel rose) and understand how to achieve it

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	-		-think myself as a videoartist rather than a filmmaker - feels like more freedom is allowed

	-		- try to re-edit this piece. use it as a playground (a serious one though) to experiment with the language that I want to develop as a videoartist

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123cld at 10:37, 26 January 2023

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	what if these edges are gateways to finding answers to the same questions? what if these two images come from the same, shared need of mankind to make sense, make meaning of the world through images, by making images of it?		what if these edges are gateways to finding answers to the same questions? what if these two images come from the same, shared need of mankind to make sense, make meaning of the world through images, by making images of it?

	~~these are the questions that arose from that intuitive comparison~~

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	overflowing voiceover ~~- very rigid structure in chapters/sections~~ - the two images are clearly presented at the very beginning of the piece - a cold close-reading in an essayistic-didactic tone - very fast pace - very formal editing		overflowing voiceover - the two images are clearly presented at the very beginning of the piece - a cold close-reading in an essayistic-didactic tone and very rigid structure in chapters/sections - very fast pace - very formal editing style/choices

123cld at 10:35, 26 January 2023

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	[[File:8ebda6e0bb49645cf3615b62aa1fecaa.jpg\|frameless\|742x742px]]		[[File:8ebda6e0bb49645cf3615b62aa1fecaa.jpg\|frameless\|742x742px]]

	we started ~~speculating about~~ the possible relation between these two images. so different yet, maybe, so similar.		we started discussing the possible relation between these two images. so different yet, maybe, so similar.

	one seemingly fully realistic, transparent, the other fully abstract and opaque, one made anonymously, automatically by google satellites, the other made by the hands and eyes of the most famous painter of the xx century		one seemingly fully realistic, transparent, the other fully abstract and opaque, one made anonymously, automatically by google satellites, the other made by the hands and eyes of the most famous painter of the xx century

	but both of these two images feature edges as key elements in their composition. edges as borders between surfaces, as places of clash, friction, chromatic cross contamination.		but both of these two images feature edges as key elements in their composition

			edges as unstable, liminal, see-through, more-than-two-dimensional borders between surfaces, as places of clash, friction, chromatic cross contamination.

	what if these edges are gateways to finding answers to the same questions? what if these two images come from the same, shared need of mankind to make sense, make meaning of the world through images, by making images of it?		what if these edges are gateways to finding answers to the same questions? what if these two images come from the same, shared need of mankind to make sense, make meaning of the world through images, by making images of it?

			these are the questions that arose from that intuitive comparison

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123cld at 10:32, 26 January 2023

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	a painting by mark rothko and google earth's imagery around north sentinel island		a painting by mark rothko and google earth's imagery around north sentinel island

	==== ~~Process~~/progress ====		==== process/progress ====
	how i got there (notes)		how i got there (notes)